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So I'm curious, what is the biggest perceived obstacle to everyone's playing here? What are you doing or have you done to overcome said obstacle? Just wondering... [smile]
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I think.... no, I know my biggest obstacle to my craft is not enough time to properly dedicate to improving upon it.

What am I doing to correct this ??

Acknowledgement is step # 1.

But I still need to simplify some other matters in my life before I can move forward on this matter.

 


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You know, it's an interesting topic that's really close to my heart - I had real troubles with learning the Stick early on, I took lessons, studied everything I could get my hands on and literally MADE the time to practice (took a full year to do nothing but), nothing worked. Progress was slow and inconsistent despite 10-16 hour days working stuff out. I am a good player, I have a solid music education behind me and a great on and off career as a guitarist. So what the heck was the problem? I have been tapping for decades on other instruments (guitar and bass) and I know how to learn stuff... wtf?

My opinion/answer;It's the simultaneous nature of the instrument (Stick in my case) coupled with a sort of feeling that the instrument is two instruments in one - bass side and a melody side. It's the self accompaniment part that really kicks a person's ass to the curb, and THAT was literally all I wanted from the instrument. It's why I bought it.
I absolutely hate Muzak, so a lot of the accompaniment methods that 90% of Stickists use are totally uninteresting to me. So there is another part of the problem - my resistance to doing whatever everyone else was doing coupled with a need to do "my" thing, whatever that was...

The big thing, and this one is the kicker - I was playing stuff (attempting to anyways) that was simply just way above my playing ability. You know why tunes like "Twinkle-Twinkle" and "Mary had a Little Lamb" are at the beginning of literally every and any instrument's method book? It's because they are simple, easily recogniseable and teach some very important yet basic things about note and interval relationship. Seriously, go to your instrument and try to play either of these simple melodies, if it takes a ridiculously long time to learn and play then it needs to be further simplified so that you can learn it and play it quickly and easily. Don't worry, one can always add complexity as one goes...

Another thing that really helped was embracing my musical education, and employing skills that I hadn't previously considered. Sightreading, and sightsinging (solfege). Sightreading stuff really helped get my practice timeframes down, and got me some much needed forward motion to my playing that was not previously experienced...

Anyways, I have tons more to say on this topic but I'll maybe just leave these thoughts here for now!

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You know, it's an interesting topic that's really close to my heart - I had real troubles with learning the Stick early on, I took lessons, studied everything I could get my hands on and literally MADE the time to practice (took a full year to do nothing but), nothing worked. Progress was slow and inconsistent despite 10-16 hour days working stuff out. I am a good player, I have a solid music education behind me and a great on and off career as a guitarist. So what the heck was the problem? I have been tapping for decades on other instruments (guitar and bass) and I know how to learn stuff... wtf?

My opinion/answer;It's the simultaneous nature of the instrument (Stick in my case) coupled with a sort of feeling that the instrument is two instruments in one - bass side and a melody side. It's the self accompaniment part that really kicks a person's ass to the curb, and THAT was literally all I wanted from the instrument. It's why I bought it.
I absolutely hate Muzak, so a lot of the accompaniment methods that 90% of Stickists use are totally uninteresting to me. So there is another part of the problem - my resistance to doing whatever everyone else was doing coupled with a need to do "my" thing, whatever that was...

The big thing, and this one is the kicker - I was playing stuff (attempting to anyways) that was simply just way above my playing ability. You know why tunes like "Twinkle-Twinkle" and "Mary had a Little Lamb" are at the beginning of literally every and any instrument's method book? It's because they are simple, easily recogniseable and teach some very important yet basic things about note and interval relationship. Seriously, go to your instrument and try to play either of these simple melodies, if it takes a ridiculously long time to learn and play then it needs to be further simplified so that you can learn it and play it quickly and easily. Don't worry, one can always add complexity as one goes...

Another thing that really helped was embracing my musical education, and employing skills that I hadn't previously considered. Sightreading, and sightsinging (solfege). Sightreading stuff really helped get my practice timeframes down, and got me some much needed forward motion to my playing that was not previously experienced...

Anyways, I have tons more to say on this topic but I'll maybe just leave these thoughts here for now!

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" It's the self accompaniment part that really kicks a person's ass to the curb, and THAT was literally all I wanted from the instrument. It's why I bought it. "

Of interest, I went the Tapping Instrument route because of more options with tunings and I felt I could increase my sound vocabulary by doing so.

Strangely enough, when I was making the deal with Grace back in September for the Ironwood I eventually lost out on [my fault there...] she kept telling me how I now needed all these instructional books and videos, and I did not have the heart to tell Grace that, well... actually I don't.

But I did set myself to order a bunch of educational material, only to back out at the last minute.

*Maybe it was because I was being expected to properly learn the Stick that I bailed !!

I know once I went the Warr route, and especially the TT Mobius Megatar route - I knew without I doubt I could do anything I wanted, with no regrets or fear of hearing "you can't do that, what are you doing.... blah blah blah..." because I was not buying those instruments so I could accompany myself, although I felt that the optimal use of such instruments - like the Stick would be in a duo, possibly trio setting.

This is precisely why I stopped visiting Sticklist.

I knew I would not work out there because I see things too differently - too free-form, and that's - like alternate tunings - not allowed.

Of interest, you made a post earlier with some music, and some basic patterns with a short video.

I watched it and said to myself, gosh.. there is no way I could play that.

But then I mused some more, and felt - but I wouldn't ever play like that now would I...

Perhaps I would if the music required it.

I don't know.

I do know that I am coming from a very different direction, a very different place when it comes to my craft... and the good thing is here - on Tappistry - I am comfortable.

On Sticklist, after a day or two, I wasn't....

Your posts are great.

Definately keep them coming.


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But here's the cool thing; the method of play (tapping)allows each person to really play the way they want to. Honestly, you only get pigeon-holed if you want to be. I have certain musical tastes and proclivities that lead me a certain way, but that's no reason why you can't take a look at something someone else does and say "hmmmmm, now how would I approach something similar...?"
There's room for all kinds of music in this big world...

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Totally !!
Yup... I can dig that....

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