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jojo

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Hey guys, looking at a 12 string Warr and wondering if it can be tuned from lowest to highest like a "regular" 12 string bass rather than the traditional warr tunings. The one in the picture is a 10 string and is tuned in 4ths Low B to Ab. 

Alternatively, could it be tuned 6x6 without the bass being inverted?

At the moment its tuned in inverted 5ths at BEADGC on the bass side and 4ths at C# F# B E A D on the melody.

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Interesting, i'm sceptical of that being tuned BEADGCFBbEbAb because the highest pitch possible on a 34" scale is around D4, or maybe as high as F#4 with a special material .007 or .0067 from Octave 4 Plus.

The biggest issue with 12 strings in 4ths is that the lowest strings will be huge, up to .266, and that will be difficult, and possibly impossible, to string through-body, the saddle and string-through hole would need modification and it's possible that the intonation offset will not travel far enough to intonate such a large string.
12 strings in fourths would have to be G#C#F#BEADGCFBbEb and a gauge near .266 would be necessary for the lowest.

If all saddles and string-through holes are identical in position, size etc. then non-inverted bass should be possible,
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Thirds is definately possible - major 3rds.... I wish I had my notes in front of me, as I'd give you the exact string gauges required, the names of the strings, and the tension.

Interestingly enough, I made the mistake of mentioning 3rds on Sticklist... and that sent off all kinds of warning flags....

Trust me - 3rds - Major 3rds as far as my 12 string TT Mobius Megatar Toneweaver goes - is a very very exciting tuning πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰ 


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jojo if you're still around, consider a 10 string in 4ths, that's practical.
If top string is D4, tuning would be, low to high:

FA#D#G#C#F#BEAD

Lowest F0 is 6 semitones below a bass B, many brands sell bass strings for F#0, typically around gauge .175.
However, a tap guitar doesn't need as much tension, so using a smaller gauge like .160 might be ok and will be easier to install and intonate. The string through-body holes may need drilling a little wider.
D'Addario sell .160, .165, .170. Kalium strings are worth trying too, high quality and flexible. Kalium have bass-length strings down to .008 so you can get the whole set from them.
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