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Tatsu

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Too bad on size and price. Now what? Am I back to buying 4 used steinbergers and ripping the bridges off of them?
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Someone is selling a Megatar on Stickist.com. I tried to look at the back of one in Google images but I'm still not sure if a person could saw down that body and then put strings on the back. What do you think? Have you ever had your hands on a Megatar?
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I've never handled a Megatar, I do know they have a tilted head stock and they have a typical 10.5mm string spacing which is around that .410".

There is this I found available: http://headlessusa.com/jcustom-fixed-bridge

A Steinberger replacement available for $129, not bad for the money but can't find specs on it, although I did find specs on a Steinberger which has a .420" string spacing. Intonation appears to be preset on these but may have an adjustment I can't see in the pics.

I can find no commercially available bridges of any kind that have a spacing narrower than 10mm. Emmett designed and built his bridges specifically for the very narrow spacing he uses on his 10 and 12 string instruments. If you really want something that narrow you will either have to part out a couple Sticks or have someone design and build it.

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Someone is selling a Megatar on Stickist.com. I tried to look at the back of one in Google images but I'm still not sure if a person could saw down that body and then put strings on the back. What do you think? Have you ever had your hands on a Megatar?


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Here're the backs of 2 Megatars, one bolt on and one neck thru. The internal body & faceplate of the bolt on is copper tape shielded to form a Faraday cage; never had the faceplate off of the neck thru, i'd suspect it's similarly shielded. The neck thru's obviously active pickup equipped, cutting away the body would require moving the battery compartment.  The backside of the necks are flat down the middle and rounded on the sides. Give me a clearer description on how you'd cut the body; any further info / pics or measurements you'd like and i'll gladly provide them.

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Thanks TxTouchStylist,

looks like the rounded headstock kills the idea of putting strings on the back.
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I wonder how easy it would be to machine down the sides of those JCustom bridges. 

Jtmart were you able to calculate the kinds of tension are on a 12 string stick or warr guitar etc...?
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The wound strings on a long scale for the light gauge, starting at .095 are around the 21-24 lb range. Heavy gauge starting at .128 is mid thirties. The Stick scale lengths aren't all the same for each model so it will vary a little. I think Warr guitars are 35" scale so may be a pound our two tighter. That is for the 5th bass tuning, I assume a 4ths tuning would be gauged to be about the same.
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I play basses setup for tapping and have been searching for the optimum 'tension profile' across the strings, and the lowest practical tension. I find a steady decrease of tension from low to high ideal, more massive strings inherently require more tension to keep their vibration and momentum under control, and to maintain good tone. Bass guitar string sets range from 30 pounds (extra light) to 60 pounds (heavy). Tappers require a low tension to be playable and don't really need more than 30 pounds on the lowest string. I fing tapping incresingly difficult on higher bass strings so the tension should fall and approach guitar tension (around 20 pounds).

This tension chart from Kalium Strings (formerly Circle K Strings) is out of date for their products but extremely useful for roughly approximating other brands of roundwound and for designing string sets. It has sharp/flat notes and covers an extreme pitch range. The bass chart is for 34" but the tension for other scales can be calculated by multiplying the value by (your scale / 34)squared. They are about to launch a new store and products so grab this chart while you can, i'm not sure if the new store will have a pdf chart.
http://circlekstrings.com/CKSIMAGES/CircleKtensionChart130105.pdf

They are a very innovative string company offering bass length gauges from .008 to .266, however currently their tapered strings have a very short taper (for good reason) so may not be compatible with string-through-body instruments, this hopefully may change with the new store appearing soon, the new homepage to keep an eye on is here:
http://kaliumstrings.com/home.html

Interestingly, all their standard strings below a certain gauge are long enough for a 40" scale instrument, making ultra long scale experiments affordable. Their larger gauges are available for 34-35", 36-37" and 40" scales. Because tappers lose scale length due to the string mute and string response i consider ultra long scale a very promising area for tapper experimentation.
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Thanks ixlramp. That's helpful. I talked to the guys over at Homemade Music Clubhouse and Ted Crocker said that if you make a tapping instrument 1/2 thick out of 3 or 4 laminates then you don't even need reinforcement even with 12 strings on the front and 12 on the back. Sound will be detrimentally affected if you use hunks of differing woods like that though. Better is to have a laminated core of about eleven layers 2/16 of an inch thick each (according to another website), making for a total of about 2 inches of laminated core. The rest of the sides of the neck can be your standard bass neck woods. There's an image of it on the builders corner sub-forum here showing the back of a bass neck.
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So,...D'addario has guitar gauge strings at bass lengths (34" scale)?
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