"Classical Music" for tap guitars

[Jersey Ray]

Hello All,

I was wondering how much interest there is out there for song books devoted to "Classical Music" - I put this in quotes because I do not like the term, really I should say "Art Music" or "Serious Music", or "Concert Music", or whatever... but you know what I mean.

I have written one book devoted to the music of Scriabin, and while some may view this is an obscurity among obscurities, it was a pet project of mine and I love playing this music.

I was wondering where to proceed to next. I would think that JS Bach would be popular. Many Jazz and Rock musicians have done Bach pieces or whole Bach projects, probably more than any other composer.
There are a few others I am considering... any suggestions? The composer would need to have died before 1923 in order for me to be clear of all copyright issues.

Ray

[corinne]

That's a nice idea - even if for the moment I am too beginner to really play this kind of music, it is what I like (with Indian music and Jazz)
Corinne

[jamsire]

How about the Bach 2-part inventions?? Two parts, very hard - very sexy!!!

That's a great place to start.

jamsire

[corinne]

Bach 2 voices inventions are very nice
maybe check if it hasn't alreaday been done, as I know Daniel has a few peaces of Bach rewritten for tap-guitar in his practical book "my space"... so better not to do double work ;-)
Otherwise, I guess than Bach, Vivaldi and other Baroques composers could be nice for tap-guitar

[John O'Connor]

How about some of the preBaroque composers? I've worked a little on some early keyboard music, including "The Lord Salisbury, His Pavane" and some Dowling. This is actually easier than Bach or some of the Baroque composers because the preBaroque wasn't as concerned with showing off technique. Just an idea.

[corinne]

as far as I am concerned, any "classical" composer would be good, even if I cannot really play any for the moment, but it will come, specially if I know that there are partitions specially made for t-g...

[Adam Fulara]

Did anybody hear any recordings of Bach music (for tap instrument solo)? For example two or three parts inventions, "Das Wohltemperierte Klavier", "Kunst der fuge", "Goldberg Variationen", English Suites, French Suites, Partitas,.....

I'm big fan of Bach piano works (clavier works), for example I like Glenn Gould versions, but I didn't know any CD (or mp3) with this kind of music played at tap-dedicated instrument....

Do You know some recordigs? Could give some links?

Adam Fulara

[John O'Connor]

Thus far, to my knowledge, there are no recordings of classical music on a tapping instrument. I don't know why. If anyone knows of any of these recordings, please let us all know. I would be most interested in them.

I have tried some rearranging of early keyboard music on Solene, and it does work rather well. I have done some Dowling, some William Byrd and some by the great and wonderful Prebaroque composer, Anonymous. It's a great way to build technique without the boredom of just scales.

[Jersey Ray]

thanks for the feedback. Bob Culbertson made some albums of classical pieces, for those interested (see link in the resources section of this web page). I have to say I have not heard the CD's, though I am sure his technique is phenominal as always. I have to say I didn't buy the CD s only because they looked more liek "pop" classics rather than the meatier stuff. But I am not criticizing Bob C, he is a geat player. Also, Steve Hahn has played some Classical and some of his own compositions are of equal depth and complexity. I'd say the same of Andre Pelat, who plays Bach and mozart.

I have heard, in person, Wolfgang Daiss (14 string Krempel) and also Jesus Aunion (sp?) (6 string PRS) play the Bach 2 part inventions. If you have the chops you can read them right off the sheet music, though I must say that these work much better if you are tuned with your bass in 4ths.

anyway, for soundfiles and PDF samples of my Scriabin book, see www.touchstyle.com and go to "books"

RA

[Adam Fulara]

Yes, I know some classical pieces played by Bob Culbertson. From his www page You can download Fur Elise and others. But I didn't hear any polyphony Bach piece he plays (only "Ave Maria"). Other stick player - Guilemo Cides plays one CD - tribute to Bach (stick), but there are only pieces arranged for stick and violins (Brandenburg concertos, Air on G string etc.) I haven't this CD, but I downloaded this pieces from his www (I guess www.stickcenter.com). I don't know if he plays also stick solo Bach. I find stick SOLO Bach pieces. Have anybody recordings of those two part inventions???

Does Wolfgang Daiss (or Jesus Aunion) have his own internet site?? (I have never heard about this musicians before). Where they lives?

[Adam Fulara]

Ach, I forgot, also Stu Hamm has played one Prelude C-dur from "Das Wohltemperierte Clavier" (BWV 846) - but this isn't hard polyphony. He plays also "Moonlight sonata" (Beethoveen), both are one single bass played, and both are verry nice...

I find any Bach piece where we have 2 (or more) melodies (polyphony) played on one instrument by one solists (BWV 846 isn't this kind of piece ... ).

[rockola]

Adam, to my knowledge neither Wolfgang nor Jesus are on the Net. Wolfgang Daiss is from the Stuttgart area in Germany, he plays in the Stuttgart Philharmonics (lute, classical guitar). Jesus Aunon lives in Granada, Spain. You can see both in photos on my site Ola's Tapping Page (http://iki.fi/ola/tapping/), sadly no sound samples.

[Stick Center]

Hello Players!
Afortunately, Guillermo Cides recorded a year ago the first Tribute to Bach completly played on The Stick.
In this historical CD you will be able to find:

1) Suite Nº 2 BWV 1067 (Badinerie)
2) Suite Nº 2 BWV 1067 (Menuet)
3) Concerto for 2 Violins and strings Nº 3 BWV 1043 (Vivace)
4) Concerto for 2 Violins and strings Nº 3 BWV 1043 (Largo)
5) Contrapunctus 1
6) Preludes and fuges BWV 846
7) Preludes and fuges BWV 851
8) Brandenburg Concer Nº 5 BWV 1050 (Affetuoso)
9) Brandenburg Concer Nº 3 BWV 1048 (Allegro)
10)Brandenburg Concer Nº 5 BWV 1051 (Allegro)
11)Cello Suite Nº 1 BWV 1007
12)Preludes and Fuges BWV 860
13)Suite Nº 3 BWV 1068
14)Passacaglia BWV 582

All the Best
David Calvano

www.stickcenter.com (http://www.stickcenter.com)

[jamsire]

Interesting - indeed. Complex for sure. My thing is, these kind of recordings make the instrument (tapping) seem even more distant because of the complex arrangements. Not to say that a cd of "Mary had a little lamb and variations" should be the alternative.

I'm always interested in seeing people do original "new" classical in the "style" of the period. Same with jazz."

Anyone want to hit me over the head and put me in the trunk of a car?

jamsire

[Adam Fulara]

Thanks to David for info. This is CD I write about earlier. This info (with titles) should be placed at www.stickcenter.com in CD section (only two titles are placed here - those with mp3 files).

There is no way in Poland to buy this CD (I guess), only credit card and post from Spain (for 20 Euros)?

[Stick Center]

http://www.stick.com/videoscds/images/cides.bach.jpg
Tha Bach Tribute by cides is available in www.stickcenter.com click here (http://www.stickcenter.com/pr.html)
I'm not shure this album is in Poland, sorry.
All the best
David Calvano

[wmlusk]

Thanks for the information on the Bach recording. Is it available in the US at this time? Are these tunes played 'straight' or are there accompanists on the tunes?

Best Regards!

[corinne]

Unfortunately, stickcenter is unavailable for the moment... please tell us when this website is online again (message : impossible to find the page/the server)

[wmlusk]

Checked this evening and it looks like the Stick Center site is back online.

[corinne]

Hi Bill
you are right, this morning (a very few hours after your evening ;-) ) it works - the only problem is for me : I have to try it twice before java works and the page comes - but now I will be able to discover that site.
Corinne

[Daniel Schell]

Hello happy tappers,

The remark of jamsire is pertinent:

Should Bach (or music from the past) be played on the tiptar?
The answer is yes.
We might not get the best interpretation of Bach of course, but that is not the purpose.
In his time Bach wrote for every instrument he knew. And he would surely have written for the tiptar.
The 2-voice inventions , even if they are difficult and almost impossible to execute on our instruments, are nevertheless a wonderfull exercise for the development of our technique.
And that will surely help us to interpret the music of today.
That is the real purpose of playing Bach (and other classics) on the tiptar.


The order of study generally accepted is:
Anna Magdalena's little book
little preludes and fuguettes
two voice inventions
the well tempered keyboard (only the preludes are playable)

In My Space
the Bach fingered for both fifths-fourths and fourths -fourths are:

Anna-magdalena
menuet in G (not from Bach)

Various
Bourrée in Em

Little preludes for Willhem Friedrich
Prelude in C

2-voices invention
Prelude in C

The well tempred keyboard
Prelude in C

Other classical studies include Schumann, Haydn, Beethoven and so on.


Best

[John O'Connor]

To all,

Music is music. Music that is written for piano can be rearranged for guitar, or string quartet, or even full orchestra. That has been fairly common practice. Pictures at an Exhibition was originally written as a two piano piece, and has become an orchestral staple. Most of Bach's organ works have been orchestrated and recorded. Therefore, any music out there that can be arranged for a tapping instrument not only can be so arranged, but should be arranged, if for no other reason than to give the tappist the opportunity to play all kinds of music and derive the benefit both technically and emotionally from all kinds of music. I have worked out some very early keyboard (harpsichord and/or virginal) music for the Solene, and it has helped me a great deal to approach this kind of music, and not only in enhancing my technique. So, if there is music out there, and if you have the imagination to rearrange it for a tapping instrument, then you not only can, but you should as well.

[Adam Fulara]

Yesterday I recorded new mp3, I begun new thread here:

http://www.tappistry.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87


I would appreciate if You could give me some advices....

[alain piniero]

I play a version of Fratres by composer Arvo Part, he is alive and still writing fantastic music. A special version is recorded in my last cd GUASA COLLECTION.
I am practising the Microcosmos by Bela Bartok, begining with book number two, it´s simple but a serious challenge. Lets talk seriously about me playing classical pieces in a few years.

:)

[Jason McKay]

Satie or Liszt are artsy and usually left out of mainstreme arrangements. They may be well suited for tap style playing, however. Bach, of course, is excellant, but done to death. Just for the sake of something different, the above mentioned might be a thought. Thanks! :D Jason

[Don Genaro]

New guy here ! I just registered to this forum and my first question was where to find arrangements for two hand style!
I would be interested in ANY classical arrangements as i am a classically trained guitarist who has just switched to tapping style.

[Daniel Schell]

Hi,

In 'My space' vol 2, thesaurus, you will find arrangements of keyboard music by
Bach, Beethoven, Haydn, Mozart, Satie, Schumann and others...
AND original tap-guitar pieces by
Aunion, Carpentier, Daiss, Jolliffe, Lampi, Schell, Splendore, K.Wagner and others...
all fingered for tap-guitars in fourths/fourths and/or fifths-fourths.

Best

Daniel Schell

[Don Genaro]

Originally posted by Daniel Schell
Hi,

In 'My space' vol 2, thesaurus, you will find arrangements of keyboard music by
Bach, Beethoven, Haydn, Mozart, Satie, Schumann and others...
AND original tap-guitar pieces by
Aunion, Carpentier, Daiss, Jolliffe, Lampi, Schell, Splendore, K.Wagner and others...
all fingered for tap-guitars in fourths/fourths and/or fifths-fourths.

Best

Daniel Schell

Sounds great. Thanks. :)