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Igos du Iskana
28th November 2007, 9.59 am
I have been playing a megatar for about two years now and had lots and lots of fun with it. However, I just don't use the bass-part of the instrument (with only one hand you have to make choices ;) ). With that in mind and the ludicrously small room i live in as a student (only about 13 square yards) i'm thinking about trading in my megatar for a smaller 6-string electric.
I have been playing on a cheap epiphone SG clone and i like it a lot.
Now for my question.
I'm quite into blues-rock and i'm really curious about playing a semi-hollowbody guitars like an ES-335.
Does anyone have experience tapping on these instruments? does the sound while tapping benefit from the hollow chambers? or is it just a waste of money better spent on a regular solid body...
I'd like to hear yout thoughts on this..
regards,
Auke
Blackie
28th November 2007, 7.22 pm
I can't answer your question about tapping on a 335, but if you follow the link below and listen to the 2nd tune on the CD (Midnight), you can hear a Warr Artisan semi-hollow guitar with nylon strings playing both bass, and guitar.
My experience is that the hollow body does indeed add a special flavor to the sound of touch-guitar. Whether the guitar has nylon or metal strings makes no difference.
Also, you don't have to have a bass side on a tap-guitar. Both sides can be in guitar range, allowing you to accompany yourself with one hand, and play melody with the other. Check out Jeff Moen.
Or, get an 8-stringer. Warr has even made 7-string Artisans.
Blackie
http://cdbaby.com/cd/fuzzylogicboptet
Igos du Iskana
28th November 2007, 9.27 pm
that sounds great, has a very nice tone.
Those Warr's are truly magnificent instruments, but way out of my league financialy :( (i have nothing more to spend over what i'm getting for my megatar) besides, i only have one hand, that makes playing the baseline to your own melody a bit more dificult ;) that's why i think a 6-stringer would be a good decision
Blackie
29th November 2007, 1.16 am
...are you now convinced that a hollowbody guitar can lend it's tone to touch-style playing?
I love the ES-335. I have an ES-175, but I don't tap it.
All the best,
Blackie
Nightmare Music
29th November 2007, 2.56 am
with only one hand you can't simaltaniously use the bass and treble, but with the aid of a looper you could get the most out of the range it has available. which you couldn't do with a standard guitar
you may have already seen him, but check out Bill Clements, he's a one handed bassist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5ThulqDmKc
Igos du Iskana
29th November 2007, 8.28 am
Originally posted by Blackie
...are you now convinced that a hollowbody guitar can lend it's tone to touch-style playing?
yeah i think i might give it a try in a few weeks
Thanks!
Jesús Auńón
29th November 2007, 8.37 am
Maybe this video can help you.
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=IBx1D2Ghad8
Best wishes.
TheEclectic
30th November 2007, 1.18 am
Jesús -
Those are some sweet videos - really geat playing.
It was a nice suprise to see a Daion hollowbody. I have always liked that line of guitars, to bad they were only around for a few years.
I liked the tone you got on "Bartók by day, bar talk by night" the best - looks like a PRS guitar?
Jesús Auńón
30th November 2007, 6.23 am
Yes, is a PRS I play since 1992.
lactose
30th November 2007, 4.23 pm
Wow that is a nice video. Bartok is nice also. The title cracked me up, I usually have a Bartok, Schoenberg, Penerecki in my CD rotation in my car. Can't say I have heard any bitonal / atonal stuff on a tapping instrument.
Jesús Auńón
1st December 2007, 11.15 am
Try this song by Michael Hedges:
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=F1QD-FPvRO4
I think this is more or less atonal, but definitively contemporary.
GaryOpenhill
1st December 2007, 3.56 pm
Originally posted by Jesús Auńón
Try this song by Michael Hedges:
http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=F1QD-FPvRO4
I think this is more or less atonal, but definitively contemporary.
That is absolutely awsome. Hedges's the man.
You're technique is totally jawdropping-to-the-floor-istique too, Jesús.
Rayzcane
1st December 2007, 5.37 pm
Igos,
Have you given any thought to the Line 6 Variax instruments? You can get the low-end model for about $300 USD. It may not compare in quality to the more expensive instruments you mentioned but it does some redeeming qualities for a touchstyle player. If I were going to play touch-style on a six-stringed instruments it would be my choice.......
One of the reasons is that this guitar allows you to emulate the sounds of 20+ guitars, including several acoustic instruments.
Another prime reason is that you can play in various open tunings with the flip of a switch and/or the turning of a knob. And, there is one VERY SPECIAL bonus for a one-armed player, like yourself:
It allows you to drop the two bass strings by one full octave! In my opinion, this a great compromise for the touchstyle player who still wants to sound like a bass and a guitar, at the same time, on a single instrument. You can see and hear a demo of this feature, and many others, on the Line 6 webpage.
I wish you the best of luck in your endeavor.
Ray Langley
Igos du Iskana
3rd December 2007, 11.22 am
Well that is an extremely cool axe :cool: I've never seen anything like it. Especialy as it is affordable (300 dollars is only about 170 euro's!) i will definatly keep this one in mind when i'm going shopping in a week or two. Thanks Ray!
Meanwhile i'm trying not to fall in love with a beautifull semi-acoustic by yamaha, the SA503 TVL (believe it or not)
Link to guitar (http://www.yamaha.com/guitars/products/productdetail/0,,CNTID%25253D60169%252526CTID%25253D600012,00.ht ml)
Auke
Igos du Iskana
7th February 2008, 1.28 pm
Well, I took the plunge and bought me a new guitar...
After some serious browsing i found this beautifull Epiphone Dot
http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/shop_image/product/c08735a0b52d8cc373a4a4ee5b4abe54.jpg
The finish looks crappy on the picture, in real life it's much intenser. The wood realy looks like it's burning if the light hits in in the right angle :cool:
I also removed the ugly "€"sticker and painted the dream theater logo on the pickguard. I saw a chapman stick on one of their DVD's and that showed me that you can actualy play one handed. So i thought that logo was fitting.
The sound is incredible, if i can get some decent recording equipment i'll post some tunes...
Tom Drinkwater
7th February 2008, 8.34 pm
Good choice on the Dot. I have always been impressed by the playability of that guitar. It is really a very good hollow body and it has received rave reviews by every publication that has reviewed it. I have an Ibanez jazz guitar but only play fingerstyle on it, it would probably work good if the action was lower.
Igos du Iskana
7th February 2008, 8.43 pm
The action isn't as low as i want it to be because the 13th fret is a bit to hight just under the 2nd string. That's why i can't get it as low as my Epiphone SG special, it's action is as low as my megatar!
But even with that small "defect", it's very playable while tapping
Maybe if I have some money again (poor student here) i'll let somone file that fret and be able to get "Dotje" even lower.
midivox
30th October 2008, 5.43 am
Hi Tappers,
Always been a bg Eppiphone Fan. I have 4 of the Eppiphone Chet Atkins ones, or I should say I had 4, because I sold one of my extra ones on ebay Friday. That are all multichamered, so just tapping on their bodies get a nice pleasing sound.
I have a Variax 300 plus the software interface to create your own models and tunings. Its a great guitar, perfect for gigging, recording or composing.
Happy Tapping
MidiVox
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