New string options

[Garry Goodman]

I am just posting to let players and luthiers know that my special plain steel string were finally able to get ferrules wound on to them. Both bass and guitar ends,

The string gauges are .005,.006,.007,.008 and soon a .009.

The .006 tunes to G4 at 34" and A440 at 30" and shorter. The .007 tunes to F#4 at 34". This allows for open string tuning to higher notes without needing fanned frets. So for instance, my highest string on my 34" Stick is Ab4 (4th fret high E string on a guitar). The strings are tough, and do not break easily.

I had good resonse at NAMM. There will be more info at my web site soon.

These strings open up new possibilities. I am able to have a C5 at 24" now.
Thanks

[rjgoos]

Garry,

If there is sufficient demand for these strings to make it worth your while to sell them, might I suggest that you offer a full line of long-scale plain strings up to 0.014 to 0.018 or so? A person can get individual long-scale bass strings easily enough for restringing a long-scale tapping instrument, but the longer scale plain strings have been more challenging to find.

Just a thought. Thanks for your good work!

[BigDaddyPoo]

I second that request. It is hard to find individual plain steel strings that are long enough.

[Garry Goodman]

The idea behind these strings is to attain new open string notes that existing strings can't tune to. So more than gauges,it has been a matter of what note at what scale length.

Now, I've found that thicker diameter strings benefit from this process, but the thickest gauge will be a .009. I can get gauges made up to .016, so this request is possible. Also long gauge round wound as small as .010 are is the works.

The main reason for the thread is to establish that these strings are no longer just theory,but are now a reality.

So all these will be sold as single strings,no sets.

[rjgoos]

For gauges of 0.008 or bigger, one can get ball-end, extra-long strings from the normal manufacturers as a special order, and the cost per string is not very high, but the minimum order requirements can be pretty high (something like 100-150 strings per gauge, I forget).

[Garry Goodman]

My .008 is nothing like any other .008. I tune my .008 to G4( 3rd fret high E string on guitar) at the 32"scale. As an E4 at 34", it's pretty durable. On a 25" scale guitar, it's pretty much unbreakable.

[rjgoos]

Not intending to detour Garry's thread, but since we were talking strings...I just noticed that Mobius Megatar has strings for sale again on eBay.

[jamsire]

Originally posted by rjgoos
Not intending to detour Garry's thread, but since we were talking strings...I just noticed that Mobius Megatar has strings for sale again on eBay.

Thanks!!!

[Garry Goodman]

Originally posted by rjgoos
Not intending to detour Garry's thread, but since we were talking strings...I just noticed that Mobius Megatar has strings for sale again on eBay.


Not a derailment at all! Megatar players will also benefit from my strings. What is the scale of the MM? What is the highest open string able to tune to and be playable?

[traktor]

Hello, Gary,

Mobius uses only certain gauges because we install the Buzz Feiten Intonation system on all of the instruments we manufacture. As you know, this patented system calls for intonation adjustments to a certain formula at the nut and at the string saddles. The benefit is that the instrument sounds more 'in tune' to the human ear. I think I've figured out why, but that's beside the point. (Those desiring more info please see the Buzz Feiten website (http://www.buzzfeiten.com).)

Changing gauges, as you know, normally requires one to reset the action and the intonation, and of course as soon as you do that, the Buzz Feiten Intonation system is lost. It can be reinstalled by any Feiten-authorized shop. [It takes a license from Buzz Feiten, a laboratory strobe (the offsets are small and precise), and some training to do.]

All that being said, in general, if you replace strings with the same gauges and the strings are similar then probably your intonation wouldn't have to be reset and you could retain the improved 'in tune' sound. And of course, sometimes people want to try new tunings anyway.

If at any time you want to see what gauges we use, just examine a listing for strings on our EBay Megatar Store (http://stores.ebay.com/megatarstore/), or on our website's Library | Documents section, download the Owner's Guide (http://www.megatar.com/documents/owners_guide/owners_guide.html) which lists all the gauges.

[Garry Goodman]

Hi Traktor

My thinking would be to either have Buzz design a system for .005-.009 or do it yourself. I think "tapping" should open up the wealth of two-handed music found in piano literature and the player should not be bound by the sight reading rules for guitar as in "sounds octave lower than written". Your version would probably work as a design patent .

My strings allow me the luxury if an 8 octave range. They give us A440 and Bb4 at 30" and G4 at 34", that options should be available to players. I just popped a G4 at 34" on my 1975 Stick. They are nice strings for touch playing. If Stick players have that option,shouldn't Mobius players?

Flexibility is good. Just my opinion.

[ixlramp]

Originally posted by Garry Goodman
Also long gauge round wound as small as .010 are is the works.

this is great news Garry :D

does anyone else find that plain strings of gauge .016ish or above are rather 'stiff', with a rather 'stiff' sound and less sustain, especially on the higher frets?

strong roundwounds of gauges .020 and lower would be very welcome. i would love to replace my top plain .013 string with a wound .013

thanks for your development work,
matthew